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I am having some problems with a few of my pictures. Please bear with me. I will fix them. Thank you.


First off...
Thank you
"Turnoverman"
"M O L L Y 13"
"Silico"
"Martx2"
"Plxda"
"Mechachomp"
"Reapzor"
For all helping me by either assisting with pictures, submitting information, or just being plain supportive!


This guide is based on F2P fighting, but I have put some member tips in as well.


WARNING!!!!! This is not a safe activity, if you die, and there is a very good chance of it if you are lower level, you WILL lose all but your 3 most expensive items. These are the F2P equivalent of dragons!!! Be prepared to risk it though, because if you are careful, the risk is almost nil.

The Cockroach Soldiers I talk about killing in my guide are level 83 combat, and can hit a max of 8 with melee, and have a range attack with a 10 max hit. They are very resilient against magic, so the only spells you should even consider casting on it are, Curse (Lowers def 5%) Confuse (Lowers attack 5%) and Weaken (Lowers Strength 5%). Even these are not suggested, because they make very little difference in the long run. For the amounts of money I list here, you must kill these creatures for about four hours a day, for a week. This is a total of 28 hours!!! I know it is a long time, but it is worth it in experience, as well as the memory of have 80+ rune scimitars in your bank.

If you want to camp out here, (Lowers amount of money you make, but you can still make 1 mil in a week easily) you should bring a fire staff, and about 100 nature runes, depending how long you will be staying. This is not suggested, but I will post a list of what to alch shortly. Most of the items that the roaches drop either stack, or are worth more to sell, and you should go through your food before you have to worry about more inventory space. The fact that a bank is a mere 20 seconds away, if you walk, also helps me flavor my opinion in whether to alch or not.


Things you need.


For both methods, you must have completed the Stronghold of Player Safety mini-quest, to make things go as fast as possible.


This is a picture of the Crevice that will lead you into room 1.


This is a Mini-Map view to help you orient yourself. Remember, it is just south of Edge!

Method 1, Maximum experience, and money.

Full rune (Rune Full helm, Rune Platebody, Rune Platelegs, Rune Kiteshield, Rune Scimitar)
Kiteshield can be exchanged with Rune Berserker, although it is suggested you have at least 20 of them in your bank to be effective and not have to keep recharging them.
Amulet of Power is recommended, but you can use an amulet of defense or strength if you prefer.
Gloves of any kind work, but Rune Gauntlets (Fist of Guthix reward) work best.
Cooked Lobsters in bank, estimated at least 2000 of them for one week, depends on level. Try out how long 500 lasts, and calculate from there.
Dragon slayer quest complete
Level 60+ in Attack, Defense, Strength is strongly suggested, as is 43+ prayer.
Explorer Ring (3) is very helpful


Inventory for Method 1. Remember to find the right amount of food so that you will not have to leave to soon, but will also not have to leave any drops.

Method 2, smaller start up cost, but takes longer.

Full rune (Rune Full helm, Rune Platebody, Rune Platelegs, Rune Kiteshield, Rune Scimitar)
Kiteshield can be exchanged with Rune Berserker, although it is suggested you have at least 20 of them in your bank to be effective and not have to keep recharging them.
Amulet of Power is recommended, but you can use an amulet of defense or strength if you prefer.
Gloves of any kind work, but Rune Gauntlets (Fist of Guthix reward) work best.
Dragon slayer quest complete
3-4k feathers, and a fly fishing rod
20 fishing, 30 makes for longer runs (Good thing)
15 cooking required, if you only have 20 fishing, 25 cooking is you have 30 fishing, Suggested at least 60 cooking for either, to maximize time spent killing
Level 60+ in Attack, Defense, Strength is strongly suggested, as is 43+ prayer.
Explorer Ring (3) is very helpful



This is the suggested inventory for Method 2. I do not have accurate numbers for the amount of feathers needed to last a week, so please, any help will be appreciated.




This is a picture of what a F2P player should be wearing for fighting roaches. I do not have boots, but they can be worn.

OPTIONAL: For both methods, you should bring a chisel for the gem drops, if you have the necessary crafting level. This puts some skills other than fighting in there, and keeps you from getting (as) bored.


Lootshare clan techniques will also be discussed.


Method 1
For this method, you need some money to start with, or you could just get your own supplies. It is very simple really, you need 2k cooked lobbys in bank, and what you do is, wear your full rune, ammy of choice (Mage ammy is not of any use, so you should not wear it) and if you have it, the explorer's ring (3) so you can save space.

Start at edgeville bank, and withdraw a full inventory of lobsters, then put 3 back, this is just an estimate, you may have to but as many as 5 back, if you are a higher level, and lower levels may need to withdraw a full inventory of them.
Run south to the Crevice next to the little school building, and enter the crevice. If you are going to kill Roaches alone, I suggest you stay off the lootshare worlds, and you can normally get the roaches in the room you enter directly from the crevice (Room 1) all to yourself. Just begin killing roaches, I say to use a scimitar because while you may hit harder with a 2H, scimitar hits more regularly, and is better in the long run. If you get a Mithril Med Helm drop, I suggest using one of your 30 a day low alchemy spells from your Explorer's Ring (3) so you do not waste bank space, and you get some magic experience. If you are camping, only use alchemy on the Runite drops, such as Rune Scimitar and Sq. Shield (They supposedly drop Rune Battle Axe's, but in my time I have never gotten one) so that you save you runes for something useful. All the other drops (Other than Mith Helm and gems, which are not common enough to worry about) stack, so it is ok to keep most of it to bank. If you want to bring some strength potions, you may, but they are about as helpful as the spells I listed.

Once you run out of food, you can use prayer, and then bank. I suggest that you recharge prayer at the monastery just to the west, and ask the monks there to heal you so you do not waste food.

As I said, pretty simple, kill, bank, heal, repeat.


MEMBERS TIPS
If you can afford it, keep full guthans handy and kill the Cockroach workers just out side of Room 1 to heal yourself and maximize drops.
Do not bother with a ring of wealth, it will not help with these drops, instead wear your favorite ring, or if you want to be practical, wear an Explorer's Ring (3) for the same reason as F2P (To low alch cheap drops)




Method 2

This method will help you work on skills other than just fighting. The main idea of this method is that instead if paying 200+ gp for a lobby, you can spend 6gp at most for your own fish. The reason that 60+ cooking is suggested is because at that point you should not burn anything but the stray salmon.

This method trains 1:Whatever combat skill you choose (Attack, Defense, Strength) 2:Fishing and 3:Cooking.

To begin this method, you start by wearing the same items as the last method, but instead of lobsters in your inventory, all you have is your fly fishing rod and all of your feathers. You start east of barbarian village at the fishing hole here. Fish a full load of salmon and trout and then run to the helm shop (My preference) and cook your food over the endless fire there. Eat some cooked fish until you are fully healed or are within 10% of full health, then go back and fish more, until you have less than 5 inventory slots (Not including your rod and feathers) left, then you run straight around the west side of the walls there and go to the Crevice. Once there, start killing roaches, until you run out of food. Then if you feel that you have enough inventory slots open, you can go fish again and then return (After cooking fish) to fight more. If you use prayer with this method then after you cook the fish, you can run over to the monastery and replenish your prayer.

For maximum time spent fighting, do not bother dropping trout even though it heals less. If you see some salmon on the ground though, you can pick it up if you have room.

MEMBERS TIPS
Once again, Guthans will help.
If you have level 38 fishing and at least 35 cooking (Higher always equals better) you can use stripey feathers and fishing Rainbow fish. Picture below.
Because this is a multi-combat area, you can also bring a familiar with you to help fight. A Melee or Range style combat familiar is your best choice, but you could also just have a pack animal to store more food.






LOOTSHARE TECHNIQUES

First of all, if you are going to do lootshare at the roaches, it changes all the rules. With lootshare it is possible to make 50% more money from drops than fighting alone.

The most people that should ever be on a lootshare clan for the roaches is 5. This is a good number if all of the members of the clan are at least level 100+ combat. Otherwise the drops are to slow in coming and to spread out.
Also 2 people (It does work, but not that well) is a bad idea, because you end up not getting the kills fast enough and the splits are a little to much in favor of the other person, no matter which one you are . I have found that 3 people is usually a good number. You can kill them fast enough that the drops keep coming, and there are few enough of you to keep getting decent drops.
Another advantage to lootshare is that while you are fighting, even if you are with people that are much stronger than you, you can still get the drops.
If you are going to work with a team, you need 1 person with a scimitar, 1 person with a 2H (I know I know, I will explain in a second) and then 1 more with a war hammer or other Crush style weapon. The reason I say that you should have a 2H here is because if you are alone, it is to slow, but while you are here, the person with the scimitar can keep up steady damage, and the 2H can hit hard.
The war hammer (Or other Crush weapon) is because Roaches are weak against crush attacks. So this will help you kill them faster. All members of the clan should have their own food supply, and not some runner that gives food out.
Hey, don't be greedy, take turns tanking, this will let each of you heal some, so you can stay down longer than if you all fought alone.
Both methods can work with lootshare, but if you are going to fight on a lootshare world, Room 1 almost always has people there, and unless you are sure that you clan can hit more than the other ones, just go north and go down the stairs. This is Room 2, and it is usually empty of all but the stray person. Room 2 has about 7 (Confirm please) roaches in it, as well as plenty of level 8 Cockroach Drones, if you want to kill them.
Remember, if it seems like you are not getting any drops, it either means that you just got a high drop (Runite Items mostly) or that you are about to get one. So if your friend keeps getting drops, and you feel that it is unfair, wait ten minutes at most, and you will have another rune toy with you.

None of the drops (F2P or P2P) from roaches will split if you use coinshare, so it make no difference.


A Cockroach Soldier has 97 Hp so it gives about 400 xp in your combat choice for each kill.
Cockroach Workers drop Nature runes if you are running out.


MISCELLANEOUS TIPS
Use the ores you get, you can make them into bars which sell for more than the ore alone. You also get smithing experience from this.
Bring nature runes, so you can kill "Cockroach Drones" (the lowest level ones.) which drop coal, and then you can superheat your own bars, and still make a profit.




MEMBERS TIPS
A member can make about 10 mil if they use the first method, and they get lucky. 5 mil would not be hard, and 3 mil would be if they were unlucky.
If you do decide to fight roaches for extended periods, keep the Mithril and/or Adamant the ores and use it/them at the blast furnace, so you can get exp that way as well as not have to waste the ores.
Save your Crimson Charms! Cockroach Soldiers are famous for their high drop rate of crimson charms, used for summoning.
Bunyip Pouches (68 Summoning required) are also a good way to maximize the length of your bug exterminating forays. With this familiar you will be healed at a steady rate. This way you can worry more about what drops you will be keeping, and less on how much food you have.


Here is a guide, written by "Reapzor" that gives great tips for P2P.

Reapzor, on Jul 31 2009, 05:16 PM, said:

Well, the first part of this guide is about your supplies. First off, go the the GE and put an order in for Strawberries(5). They may take a while, and if they do just use monkfish or something. Get about 100 of the strawberry baskets, they're about 350-400gp each. Next, buy about 5 Varrock teleport tabs. Having your Varrock teleport directed to the GE helps with this part. Set up your inventory as such:

(The pictures were taken after I was already underway in the trip)

The inventory translates to:

Red dots - Strawberries(5)
Yellow dots - empty space


And wielded items translate to:



After this was taken I switched the defender for an obsidian shield, for more defence bonuses. The concept is to retain high offensive strength while still having high defensive bonuses. Thus the Torag armour, and the shield.

Head to the cockroaches down the rift (Just north of the security house), and if the three by the rope are empty, set up shop there. Pick up mainly law runes and crimson charms at first, and as you get more free inventory space pick up mithril ores, and all the other goodies. If the triple roaches are crowded, pull the big lever. If it says "you hear locks falling into place", pull it again. Otherwise, go out the small room, and east down the stairs, and through the small door. There are more roaches there. If, yet again, it is too crowded, head back out the door and kill the roaches in that area.

Average profit with 89 attack, 87 strength and 80 defence is about 380-450K per trip gross profit. After you are done, teleport out to the GE, and sell your profits (about 200-300 law runes, 100-300 mithril ores, 10-30 adamant ores, a few hundred fire runes(I don't pick them up), 70-100 crimson charms, 1-4 rune items, and occasionally a ranarr seed). I got 20 summoning levels doing this and still cut a profit.

OK, Hope this guide helps you fight roaches again soon. If you see something wrong with it, feel free to Pm me or post. Most of what I have said comes from experience of fighting roaches, both as a F2P player and a P2P player. Again, thank you to all that have helped me write this guide, or just make it better over all.


I also would love if some one could get me a few pictures for the members sections. At this moment I would like a picture of 1: 1k stripey feathers and a fly fishing rod, with a chisel in your inventory. 2: A picture of your "Worn Equipment" tab, while wearing Full Guthans, Amulet of glory or fury, dragon boots, and dragon gloves (Unless guthans has gloves) with dragon scimitar/war hammer/Dagger (p)++, bunyip pouch, with the rest of the inventory minus 5 slots full of sharks/sea turtles/monkfish in inventory (Separate pic if you please). 3:A picture of a dragon scimitar drop being split over coinshare. This is to help make the P2P sections more in depth, so that it is easier for P2P players to jump right into fighting,

High def pic versions of all of the pics I have would also be appreciated. If anyone wants to clean up the images, I do not know how, then feel free to, but please Pm me through Runehq with the results, instead of posting them here.

This post has been edited by Jack_Sparrow: 01 August 2009 - 09:57 AM

[Epic]

Recorded drops by me.

1) Rune Scimitar, sweet!!! I got damned lucky. Almost did not get it, was busy chatting...
2) 305 Gp
3) 2 Death Runes
4) 243 GP
5) 161 GP
6) 1 Adamanite ore (noted)
7) 1 Adamanite ore (noted)
8) 20 law runes, not to bad!
9) 8 Death Runes
10) 107 GP
11) Nothing.... Curses...
12) 3 Law Runes
13) 3 Mithril Ore (noted)
14) 325 GP
15) 3 Mithril Ore (Noted)
16) 27 Fire Runes
17) 4 Death Runes
18) 3 Mithril Ore (Noted)
-Fish more food- Not banking this trip...
19) 3 Mithril Ore (Noted)
20) 5 GP... OMG!!! I am so rich!!! I am going to go get a full P-Hat set, and the na dozen santa hats!!! YEAH!!!!
21) 3 Mithril Ore (Noted)
22) 126 GP
23) 3 Mithril Ore (Noted)
24) 2 Law Runes... Better than nothing?
25) 3 Mithril Ore (Noted)
26) 56 Fire Runes
27) 3 Mithril Ore (Noted) Wow, these are common...
28) 396 GP
Banking -Fishing more food-
29) 118 GP
30) 3 Mithril Ore (Noted)
31) 1 Adamantite Ore (Noted)
32) 3 Mithril Ore (Noted)
33) 374 GP
34) 8 Death Runes
35) 53 Fire Runes
36) 15 Death Rune... Wow.
37) 7 Fire Runes
38) 3 Mithril Ore (Noted)
39) 240 GP
40) Mithril Ore (Noted)
41) 245 GP
42) Adamantite Ore (Noted)
43) 16 Law Runes
44) 368 GP
45) Nothing... Blast it...
46) 5 GP. OMG!!! Another one!!! I am so amazingly rich!!!!
47) 289 GP
-Fishing more food- Banking also
48) 323 GP
49) 12 Law Runes
50) 118 GP
51) 11 Death Runes
52) 203 GP
53) 289 GP
54) 136 GP
55) 3 Mithril Ore (Noted) Wow, that time took a while.
56) 5 GP ANOTHER ONE!!! OMG!!! I AM SO TOTALLY AWESOME!! This is the best Christmas ever!!!
57) 183 GP
58) Rune Square Shield YES!! Now I am feeling good!
59) 14 Death Runes
60) 20 Law Runes
61) Uncut Diamond First gem in a while....
62) 368 GP
63) 7 Law Runes
64) 335 GP
65) 1 Adamantite Ore (Noted)
66) 1 Adamantite Ore (Noted) Repeated drop... O_o
-Food break- I also banked.
67) 242 GP
68) 3 Mithril Ore (Noted)
69) 10 Death Runes
70) 220 GP
71) 3 Mithril Ore (Noted)
72) 5 GP Another one!!!! Woot!!! I am pwning!! Visage drops ain't got nothing on me!
73) 3 Mithril Ore (Noted)
74) 147 GP
75) 3 Mithril Ore (Noted)
76) Mithril Medium Helm, Alched for 312 GP. Used my Explorer's Ring (3) for that!
77) 13 Death Runes
78) Adamantite Ore (Noted)
79) 4 Death Runes
80) 177 GP
-Fishing more food-
81) 3 Mithril Ore (Noted)
82) 3 Mithril Ore (Noted)
83) Nothing
84) 12 Death Runes
85) 342 GP
86) 3 Mithril Ore (Noted)
87) 382 GP
88) 274 GP
89) 202 GP
90) 5 GP AGAIN!! I AM DOING 271% PWNAGE!!!
91) 3 Mithril Ore (Noted)
92) 380 GP
93) Nothing
94) 3 Mithril Ore (Noted)
95) 3 Mithril Ore (Noted)
96) 3 Mithril Ore (Noted)
97) 136 GP
98) 3 Mithril Ore (Noted)
99) 391 GP
100) 58 Fire Runes



Recorded drops by Mechachomp.

mechachomp, on Apr 21 2009, 02:31 PM, said:

key
italic:dropped
bold:alched
normal:kept
Underlined:epic drop

F2P!!!

1.law rune x5
2.uncut emerald
3.mithril ore (noted) x3
4.332 gp
5.mithril ore (noted) x3
6.nothing...
7.mithril ore (noted) x3
8.uncut emerald
9.death rune x2
10.law rune x9
11.5gp
12.fire rune x38
13.law rune x7
14.mithril med helm
15.mithril ore (noted) x3
16.mithril ore (noted) x3
17.death rune x8
18.mithril ore (noted) x3
19.129gp
20.adamantite ore (noted)
21.adamantite ore (noted)
22.285gp
23.death rune x13
24.254gp
25.367gp
26.mithril ore (noted) x3
27.adamantite ore (noted)
28.law rune x20
29.fire rune x55
30.law rune x17
31.mithril ore (noted) x3
32.mithril ore (noted) x3
33.law rune x19
34.nothing
35.135gp
36.mithril ore (noted) x3
37.mithril ore (noted) x3
38.mithril ore (noted) x3
39.mithril ore (noted) x3
40.adamantite ore (noted)
41.mithril ore (noted) x3
42.death rune x12
43.139gp
44.mithril ore (noted) x3
45.death rune x9
46.mithril ore (noted) x3
47.mithril ore (noted) x3
48.mithril ore (noted) x3
49.341gp
50.mithril ore (noted) x3
51.mithril ore (noted) x3
52.fire rune x43
53.138gp
54.338gp
55.391gp
56.law rune x12
57.law rune x2
58.mithril ore (noted) x3
59.death rune x6
60.mithril ore (noted) x3
61.mithril ore (noted) x3
62.355gp
63.uncut emerald
64.uncut sapphire
65.5gp
66.mithril ore (noted) x3
67.174gp
68.death rune x3
69.death rune x13
70.adamantite ore (noted)
71.290gp
72.nothing
73.missed this drop
74.fire rune x50
75.law rune x19
76.5gp
77.death rune x14
78.399gp
79.115gp
80.uncut emerald
81.uncut emerald
82.adamantite ore (noted)
83.5gp
84.law rune x15
85.280gp
86.mith med helm
87.adamantite ore (noted)
88.mithril ore (noted) x3
89.law runes x7
90.rune sq shield FINALLY!!!!
91.law rune x3
92.5gp
93.RUNE SCIMITARR!!!!!
94.398gp
95.mith med helm
96.adamantite ore (noted)
97.5gp
98.151gp
99.death rune x14
100.5gp


money made from:
law runes: 38,383gp
adamantite: 8,440gp
mithril: 17,700gp
death runes: 23,856gp
fire runes: 1,566gp
rune sq: 46,080gp
mith med helms: 1,404gp
coins: 5,312gp
Rune scimitar: 32,036gp


That's 174,750 gp, 174k/100

1740gp per cockroach.

turnoverman, on Jun 18 2009, 03:00 PM, said:

I'm using the same key as metal

key
italic:dropped/didn't pick up
bold:alched (I'm not bringing runes so it'll be using exploreres ring)
normal:kept
Underlined:epic drop

my starting inventory is my inventory in that pic, four empty spaces, and the rest full of rainbow fish (they heal 11!)

my outfit is: helm of netiznot, explorers ring 3, granite plate, ava's accumulator, constantly increasing ammount of steel arrows (free steel arrows > having a cape), glory ammy, black rfd gloves, zammy speer (2 handed), d platelegs, and mith boots.

unimportant info: I'll be in what I think is room 2, a connection of a bunch of small rooms each with either one or two cockroach soldiers and one that has a drone a worker and a soldier, I refuse to get the exact number of coins because that would be to much trouble, and I'm gonna be pressing accept edit after every bank/fish trip so I won't lose it all, and as such if it doesn't have 100, then I'm not done (if it is above 100 then I'm goin to 150), and finally, I did get a rune scimmi on the trip before I started this, so if it doesn't come until the very end don't blame it on the scimmi *would huggle scimmi, but he doesn't want to get cut*

1: 2 bittercap mushrooms
2: coins, gold charm
3: coins, crimson charm
4: 3 noted mith ore, green charm
5: 3 laws
6: 4 laws, crimson charm
7: coins, crimson charm
8: coins
9: tarromin seed
10: uncut sapphire (became cut, then bolts, then hit the floor)
11: coins, crimson charm (I LEIK CRIMZON CHARMZ)
12: 3 noted mith ore
13: coins
14: 3 noted mith ore, green charm
15: mith med helm
16: ruby (which I cut), crimson charm
17: coins
18: 9 death runes
19: 3 noted mith ore, crimson charm
20: 16 law runes, crimson charm
(the tv in the other room has the orkin comercial with the roach pizza delivery man and I laugh)
(MOLLY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (at least I lvled up my construction to 42 with the lamp))
21: 3 noted mith ore
22: 6 law runes, green charm
23: 1 noted addy ore
24: coins
25: coins, crimson charm
26: coins
27: 3 noted mith ore, crimson charm
28: 10 law runes, gold charm
29: 2 death runes, green charm
30: 18 law runes
31: coins
32: 1 noted addy ore
33: 1 noted addy ore, crimson charm
34: nuthin
35: 3 noted mith ore, crimson charm
36: 3 noted mith ore, gold charm
37: coins
38: 3 noted mith ore
39: coins, crimson charm
40: coins, gold charm
41: coins
42: crimson charm, marentill seed
43: 3 noted mith ore, crimson charm
44: nat tally that doesn't work in the place I was at ONE WHOLE COIN!
45: coins
(at this point I went into taht jail door, more spawns)
46: ruby (became cut)
47: coins
(went back up cuz sumone showed up)
48: 4 death runes
(starts switching back and forth whenever needed)
49: 3 noted mith ore
50: 3 noted mith ore, gold charm
51: loop half o' key
52: 12 laws
(btw this is still my first trip )
53: 1 noted addy ore, crimson charm
54: coins
55: 6 death runes
56: coins
57: coins
(finally my first trip ends!)
`~fishing and bank so that I have more space for fish trip~'
1st trip total:

green charms: 3
crimson charms: 17
coins: 5924
death runes: 21
law runes: 69
noted mith ore: 36
noted addy ore: 4
stuff that doesn't stack: two rubies (cut nao), loop half o' key, they really don't drop that much non-stackable stuff.

I got at least 13k worth of xp in every melee skill (I was sharing) and hp, the molly leveled up my construction, I got a tiny bit of crafting, and a tinier bit of fletching from gems and those sapphire gem bolts

at this point I'd like to remind you that rainbow fish heal 11, 11 is quite a lot for 9 coins (a stripy feather), a nearly full inventory of these things was the only thing that let me do 57 of them in one trip.

I also highly reccomend the zammy speer for anyone that uses shared combat, you can use any of the three modes of combat (slash stab or crush) for shared, and the crush attacks obliterate these roaches. (speed of a whip and slightly more damage)

now back to killin!

58: 19 law runes (lucky first drop of trip)
59: 3 law runes (yay moar law runes)
60: coins
61: mith med helm
62: 1 noted addy ore
63: coins
64: coins (almost got ksed )
65: 3 noted mith ore, crimson charm
66: coins
67: 3 noted mith ore
68: 3 noted mith ore
69: coins
70: 3 noted mith ore (extremely common drop)
71: 13 law runes ( I like law runes, saves me time from crafin them)

takin a break to eat, not a new trip I'm just real life hungry.

72: 54 fire runes, crimson charm
73: 20 law runes, crimson charm
74: 13 law runes (I LIEK LAW RUNEZ!)
75: 2 law runes (sheesh 15 law runes in a row wth?)
76: 5 blood runes (0_0 I'm getting a LOT of runes!)
77: 3 noted mith ores (aww no more runes =()
78: coins
79: coins, green charm
80: tooth half of a key, crimson charm (FULL KEY!)
81: coins
82: 3 noted mith ores
83: 2 blood runes, crimson charm
84: 3 noted mith ores
85: mith med helm, crimson charm
86: coins, crimson charm
87: 3 noted mith ores, crimson charm
88: coins, crimson charm
89: mith med helm, crimson charm
90: 3 noted mith ores
91: coins, crimson charm
92: 3 noted mith ores
93: 3 noted mith ores, crimson charm
94: coins
95: 3 noted mith ores (sooooo many mith ores! I'm so happy I trained my smithing up to 50!)
96: 6 death runes
97: 1 law rune
98: coins
(right here I'm thinking that close to 1/2 of the 13k xp from the last one was from the trip before that)
99: 3 noted mith ores, gold charm
100: coins, green charm
`~leaves for a much needed bank trip (13 hp no fud left)~'

2nd trip:

green charms: 2
crimson charms: 12
coins: 5571
death runes: 6
law runes: 71
noted mith ore:39
noted addy ore: 1
blood runes: 7
fire runes: 54
stuff that doesn't stack: teeth half of a key

at least 6k or so xp in melee stats & hp

total:


green charms: 5
crimson charms: 29
coins: 11495
death runes: 27
law runes: 140
noted mith ore: 75
noted addy ore: 5
blood runes: 7
fire runes: 54
stuff that doesn't stack: 2 cut rubies, full key... seriously not that many non-stacking drops

in price checker, total $$$ gain

green charm: N/A
crimson charm: N/A
coins: 11495
death runes: 7425
law runes: 38500
noted mith ore: 16050
noted addy ore: 5190
blood runes: 1932
fire runes: 486
stuff that doesn't stack: 51277 and 3616

total: 138921

138921/100

1389 gp a roach, also charms which are worth more than any money can buy, the ore will get turned into bars, which are worth more than their ore versions, the full key I'll use which may or may not be worth more than the key itself, and the rubies will become rings of forging, so the money isn't exactly right.

Due to something strange, I cannot post another 100 recorded kills, so I will link you...

nautyhottie2, on Jul 2 2009, 06:43 PM, said:

Which Brings me to a total of: 174,530 gp!
Which is an average 1745 gp each kill!

This post has been edited by F-Lame: 02 July 2009 - 09:02 PM

[flame_emalf]

D= don't do it

Nice Guide =D just dont shoot

This post has been edited by flame_emalf: 07 March 2009 - 03:10 AM

[spike]

this is a good guide i am going to do the first method

[Epic]

YAY!!! Someone thinks this guide is good!!!

*Waves gun in air joyfully*

Question, is it possible to make it so after you put your answer in the polls, I can show the "Correct" answer? I do not want to say what will give the big money on here, or people will cheat Anyways, thanks for posting! I am glad someone will use the guide, otherwise I will have wasted 2 hours typing. Good luck on roaches!

[martx2]

Nice guide, cockroach soldiers are my favourite monster for charms and i always liked fighting them. Your guide is good, but pictures always help. I never knew lootsharing them was a serious option, thanks for making that clear. I got a few improvements for your guide:

-You say something about familiars, but you forgot the bunyip. A bunyip is in my experience far more useful than any fighting familiar or storage familiar.
-Cockroach soldiers drop dragon scimmys, and dragon scimmys are shared.

But thanks for your guide, this monster is one of the best ever to kill and they deserve to get attention.

This post has been edited by martx2: 08 March 2009 - 02:20 PM

[Epic]

Thanks Martx! That is really helpful. I am not a member, so forgive me if I do not mention some very obvious member items and tools (More like toys in my opinion ) I was a member before, but I never got very far. I will add the tip about Bunyips, and after confirming, I will add Dragon Scimmys as sharable using Coinshare. I find it funny that I was hopping on to add pictures when I saw your post.

Feel free to add anything else you might thing I missed, I am happy to get support! I will also make sure that your name is added to the list of people who helped make this guide the best.
Happy bug killing!

[Epic]

Now... By popular demand... Pictures!!!!!


More to follow.

[Epic]

I just finished editing some more stuff. I tried to make things seem a little more understandable. Please post and tell me your opinion!

[ThomasRM]

Very nice! I've been killing these, but I have yet to receive a dragon scimitar. I'll just have to kill on and see.

[Oliesminis]

very nice guide, a couple of thing i have found from members

if you lootshare you get runs of drops going to the same player
good drops are between 1/80 and 1/100
they drop LOADS of crimson charms
if your combat is melle based and 95+, you can kill these with no food if you use guthans


will add more later

[Epic]

Thanks Olie, I will add this all to the guide, and I will add your name to the list of people that helped.

[Stormys_Amazon]

Personally, I did a lot of my training on cockroach soldiers, and wish I had had this before I started. I learned it all on my own. Fortunately I never got killed, but I came close a few times. Nice job!

[Epic]

Thanks Stormy... Glad that you did not die.

[Oliesminis]

youve got a bit at the bottom which says you want a pic of d scim being split on coinsahre, it doesnt drop d scims

[Epic]

Runehq (While not always right) says that it does drop Dragon Scimitars. If you think that it does not drop this item, I will note that if you want.

[Sunny]

i need 10mil max for 99 cook.... and i want it from roaches and some wcing... how long will it take?


btw H E Y Flame

[Epic]

Well Sun, at your level if you melee only, you should be able to get that money in a month, if you fight around four hours a day. Might I suggest that you cook trout? It only costs about 5.5mil from level 40 cooking to get 99 on it, and you can sell it and make a little money.

[Molly_13]

Awesome guide

[Epic]

Well thank you Molly. Remember everyone, if you have any suggestions or ideas, just tell me! I will be happy to put it in there. (I also am afraid I missed something )

This post has been edited by Flameshame: 14 March 2009 - 01:50 AM

[Sunny]

Flame,you wanna do lootshare any time soon?

[Epic]

Sure sun, I recently lost around 800k, and I had sold my rune armor, so I will have to earn some of the money back first. I am normally on world 113, so feel free to ask me then

[roxyrady]

This may seem like a silly question, but I havent been down in the crevice yet, and wanted to know....
Once you get down there, do you have to teleport out or is there a ladder or rope to get out?

Good guide by the way, will be testing both methods when i get there, but dont want to get stuck down there and die!
thanks

[Epic]

roxyrady, on Mar 24 2009, 04:36 PM, said:

This may seem like a silly question, but I havent been down in the crevice yet, and wanted to know....
Once you get down there, do you have to teleport out or is there a ladder or rope to get out?

Good guide by the way, will be testing both methods when i get there, but dont want to get stuck down there and die!
thanks

No problem, yes there is a rope that will let you get out. I am glad that you like my guide, and good luck on your roach killing adventures!

[Symbolic]

Great guide, I just started at the roaches today, and I've had very good luck. I'd hate to bring up a week or so older thread, but I believe some credit is due here.

[Epic]

I am glad that someone did, because I have been looking for a reason to post here. I still need to get around the the "Keep/drop/alch" addition to the guide... But other than that, I only really need those pics that I have requested for this guide to be pretty much complete!

[Ralkal]

I will add a money tip to your...ah...perfect guide...
Make bars with the ore you get if you can, its way more worth it that just selling the noted ore. ( you gain $$ even if u buy the nats for superheat item).

[Epic]

Plxda, on Apr 5 2009, 01:03 PM, said:

I will add a money tip to your...ah...perfect guide...
Make bars with the ore you get if you can, its way more worth it that just selling the noted ore. ( you gain $$ even if u buy the nats for superheat item).

Thanks Plxda, I will add that and put your name in the area with the name of people that helped.

This post has been edited by The_estranged_Flameshame7: 05 April 2009 - 01:49 PM

[Ralkal]

Oh and another tip, I would recommend for F2ps to use warhammer as weapon bcuz roaches are weak against crush.

This post has been edited by Plxda: 05 April 2009 - 04:26 PM

[Epic]

I will look it over, but I do think I have that mentioned.